Research Notes by Beryl Attaway - 2012
Set out below are Beryl Attaway’s research notes as she has
explored information on the residents of Hesley Hall.
She cautions that they should be seen as work in progress, that
it is raw information at the moment and that further
verification is needed.
She is happy to share this work in progress and invites comments
from anyone who may have information to add.
A fully worked up article will follow in due course.
I have come across further information on the history of Hesley Hall that
tells us about the families who followed the Willoughbys.
Page 477 - 18 Feb 1791 - John Bagshawe senior reports that
Captain Murray of Banner Cross, "whose sister Mr Bagshawe
afterwards married", had "bought two estates near Doncaster,
Shooter's Hill and the Willoughby property".
Page 486 - "Captain Murray has a beautiful estate at Hesley,
formerly in the possession of Mr Willoughby". Footnote at the
bottom of that page: "Whose son the 7th Lord Middleton was born
there, as was also the author of these memoirs".
The Murray family of Banner Cross is of the Duke of Athol line
and appear to have acquired Banner Cross through marriages with
the Bright and Dalton families -
Page 565: Another Hesley Hall family we have not met before is
the Greaves family. Henry Marwood Greaves married Mary Catherine
Anne Bagshawe. The Bagshawe name was later added to the family
name to comply with a will.
William Henry Greaves Bagshawe, was born at Hesley Hall on 13
August 1831 and baptized there by his grandfather, William
Bagshawe on 31st August; christened at Harworth on 5th April
1832. In July 1851 he entered Trinity College Cambridge. In 1855
he was placed in the Commission of the Peace for the County of
Derby and qualified in July 1861.
Francis Edward Greaves, also born at Hesley Hall, on 23rd May
1840 and baptized at Harworth on 1 December 1840. Entered
Trinity College, Cambridge (date not given). In 1867 he was a
Magistrate for the county of Derby
Ellen-Elizabeth, the only daughter, was born at Hesley Hall on
18th November 1836 and baptised at Harworth on 23rd April 1837.
There is a Mary Catherine Murray Greaves-Bagshawe, born at Ford
Hall, the main residence of the Greaves family. This linkage of
surnames suggests that the various estates, including Hesley
Hall, were passed down to different families through marriages.
Mary's family is shown at:
Page 581 - On the death of Mrs Bagshawe, her daughter and
son-in-law left Hesley Hall. On their departure Mr Charles
Wright (full name Charles Swaine Wright) and his wife Mary Ellen
de Cardonnel Elmsall moved to the Hall (married Doncaster 1845
Q3). Charles Wright was the son of Rev Godfrey Wright of Bilham
House and his wife Mary. A footnote also says: "On their
departure Mr. Charles Wright brought his bride (see page 567),
Mary Ellen de Cardonnel Elmsall, to live there, but at length
the estate was sold by her father Colonel Elmsall." I believe
the Colonel's full name was Joseph Edward Greaves-Elmsall of
Woodlands, Yorkshire (again suggesting a marriage between
Greaves and Elmsall families). Would be interesting to know what
was meant by the words "at length" as the Colonel died one year
later - see next para but one.
Charles Swaine Wright died in 1850, Q3 and his will was proved
Page 582 - Following the death of Charles Wright, Hesley was
sold by Mary Ellen's father, Colonel Elmsall and a wing of the
house about 60 feet in length was pulled down, together will the
stables, coach-houses etc. A large quantity of fine old timber,
chiefly oak, which once formed part of Sherwood Forest was also
destroyed. The Colonel died in Marylebone in 1851, Q3. Mary died
So far, we have Captain Murray buying Hesley Hall from the
Willoughby family around 1790/1791 and it remaining in the
"family" with surnames changed through marriage.
There is a mortgage link to Hesley Hall dated 1 August 1864 and
Richard Foljambe Hall's name is mentioned. The details are not
available online. The reference is: Battersby/35
Richard and his wife were married in Hackney in 1851 Q4; FreeBMD
record their names as:
Richard Folgarsh Hall and Elizabeth Breese Oridge (not quite
the correct spelling!)
This seems to indicate the Hall's purchased Hesley around the
time of Colonel Elmsall's death.
In 1857 Hubert Hall was born at Hesley Hall; his father was
Richard Foljambe Hall (b. c1817) his mother Elizabeth Breese,
née Orridge (b. c1826), and the youngest of three generations of
Halls were then living at Hesley Hall; the family was headed by
Hubert’s grandfather John, and his Italian-born grandmother
Felice; John Hall is identified as the 'landowner'. The 1851
census lists Felice as a British subject, born in Milan; she
died in 1863. By 1864 the youngest generation of Halls comprised
Cicely Alice, the eldest, born in 1854, John Foljambe born
around 1857 (both Hubert and John are given as aged 3 at the
time of the 1861 census), Hubert and Melicent.(1)
Could John Hall and Felice have met in Palermo via the
Hubert's education at Shrewsbury led to high achievements - "Dr.
Hubert Hall, Litt.D., F.R.Hist.S., F.S.A., formerly of the
Public Record Office, lost his life in July by enemy action."
Melicent, ‘younger daughter of Richard Foljambe Hall’, married
Charles Beazley in December 1889; the wedding took place in
Kensington and the father was described as "late of Clydesdale
Mansions" (1) in London. This indicates the Hall family could have
moved from Hesley by 1889. The same source also says "Sometime
in the mid to late 1870s Richard Foljambe Hall and his family
moved to Poole Court, Yate, Gloucestershire" and also "Richard
Hall does not appear in the Gloucestershire or Worcestershire
‘Return of Owners of Land, 1873’ [Ancestry UK]."(1)
In Kelly's 1879 directory for Yate, Gloucestershire it says:
"Also mentioned on the same page of Kelly's Directory for 1879
are Poole Court, erected in 1874, the residence of Richard
Foljambe Hall Esq.(1) The Yate Town Council website gives a
building date of "the early 1850s". The Council now owns the
property and it was bought for £1. Richard and his wife are
buried in Stiffkey, Norfolk, Richard died in 1897; his wife,
Elizabeth died in 1899.
The information on the Hall family is taken from a Liverpool
and the author readily refers to Hesley Park
as well as Hesley Hall. Has the author caused any confusion
between the two similar names?
Since writing the above paras I have received a reply from the
Heritage Officer at Yate Town Council; he writes:
"Thank you for your enquiry regarding Poole Court. Having done
my own research I can confirm the original family at Poole Court
are the Hall Family and are there by 1879 suggesting the house
was constructed during that decade. You are right to note it is
Richard Foljambe Hall. During the 1880s the Hill Family moved in
and are the shipbuilding family of Charles Hill. The property is
eventually commandeered by the Royal Flying Corps around 1916/7.
Richard Hill of Poole Court died during WWI.
I think a Hill family following a Hall family could
Since my original
email I have found what appears to be definitive dates for the
Whitakers' time at Hesley with this statement re a monument in
Hesley Hall Chapel:
So the question is when did the Whitakers purchase Hesley Hall?
Benjamin and Caroline married 23 January 1871. The Foljambe
Halls were likely living in Poole Court by 1874 and certainly no
later than 1879; that may indicate the date the Whitakers moved
into Hesley Hall.
So the timeline might look something like this:
1790/1791 Captain Murray buys Hesley Hall from the Willoughby
family; it remains in the "family", but surnames change through
1851 The Hall family purchase Hesley Hall from the
Murrays/descendants (see earlier para re mortgage)
1874-1879 The Whitakers move to Hesley Hall, i.e. when the Halls
move to Yate.
As far as Colonel Gooch living at Hesley Hall in 1804, it could
be the Murrays had a tenant.
National Archives has Hesley Hall as Kesley Hall and I have
emailed them hoping they will make the correction.
An extra piece of info from the same book is partially
interesting for Tickhill researchers:
Page 567 - Mr John Clay died, unmarried, at Hesley Hall on 24
June 1796 - descends from the Clays of Bridge House. It seems
that these Clays are the Burton upon Trent brewers - see:
The Clay name is interesting to me because that family links to
Bass as my grandfather, James Cawser, was a gamekeeper at
Byrkley Lodge. At the wedding of Joseph Spender Clay, in 1874,
the best man was Hamar Bass.
One of the families that followed the Halls'
into Poole Court, Yate was the Hill family. One was named Vernon
Tickell Hill! You just couldn't make it up!
"Alabaster wall monument, on north wall of nave, to B. I.
Whitaker who lived at Hesley 1861-1922 and to wife Caroline
So they were at Hesley much earlier than we thought, by around
13 years. There is a reference to Joseph Whitaker in Armorial
Families and Joseph is described as "of Hesley"
(1)Margaret Ruth Proctor,
Hubert Hall (1857-1944): Archival Endeavour and the Promotion of
Historical Enterprise, February 2012